PRIESTHOOD Questions/Answers

I was excited to learn that I was accepted to the seminary and I even took my letter of acceptance to the Blessed Sacrament in order to open it read it in the presence of Jesus. I remember feeling like I received a great gift (the letter) as I walked in and entered His Presence. However, now that I am preparing to enter in August, I have been reluctant to go through with it. I am very happy with my life right now between my family, career and friends. Life couldn't be better actually. One side of me wishes that classes were postponed until January, another feels like it's only fair to give God at least one year of my life in the seminary after having been discerning for four years.

 My question is: What should I do? Should I enter or are these feelings signs that I should rethink my entering this August?

Thank You,

Thank you for this important question. In terms of the rules of discernment of St. Ignatius of Loyola, we would do well to discern what is of the Spirit of God and what is not. This is, of course, done in prayer.

Having sensed that you "received a great gift" from God when you were in prayer before the Blessed Sacrament is more likely the movement of the Spirit of God since that was a time of encounter with Christ in prayer.

It is often the case that the spirit against God works through discouragement and desolation, most especially when we are away from prayer.

In weighing these two movements of the spirit, it seems that God was speaking through moments like you had before the Blessed Sacrament. I would also tend to think that good discernment over four years (assuming you were drawing closer to Christ in that time) should outweigh the discouragement that can come before a time of transition. In stable times, your discernment was to go. I would trust that unless God reveals otherwise through prayer.

All of this is in light of continuing to draw closer to Christ in prayer and in the sacraments.

May Mary protect you as you conform yourself to Her Son.

6/13/09I have suffered from OCD since 2002 & it has manifested by different obsessions since then but after a devastating breakup with my ex fiancée in 2006 the thought of the priesthood rushed into my mind that caused me severe anxiety & depression.  I am much better now but those thoughts still linger on and other church member have suggested the priesthood.  Don't know if these thoughts are from my OCD or a calling.

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3/4/09 "There are probably guys who are being called and are not hearing it." Do you think this is true? What are sorts of things might drown out God's call?

Yes, there are likely men who are being called who are not hearing it. Christ loves His Church and cares for Her always – this includes calling workers to the vineyard. Things that might drown out God’s call are anything that prevents one to have a spiritual life in which he can listen go God and have an inner dialogue with regard to His will.

"Be still, and know that I am God" (Psalm 46:10).

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3/4/09 "We need men who are willing to give up their lives for Jesus Christ...now." Why does the world need priests? Why is there a sense of urgency?

There is this urgency for priests because Christ works, most especially, through the sacraments that He has given us. For the sacraments we need priests who act “in persona Christi.” This is most especially the case for the sacrament of the Eucharist – the real presence of Christ for His people.

There will always be an urgency to proclaim Christ because what is at stake is souls. As Christ himself says in Luke’s Gospel, “I have come to bring fire to the earth and how I wish it were already ablaze” (12:49). This fire is His love which He desires all of us to know and to live.

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Thanks for the question. I would say that determining God’s call will come less with a sign or two than it will with many signs. Often we think of signs like a bolt of lightning or something like that, but more often than not the signs will be internal movements of the heart and spirit. They are also the observations of others around you. I know this is hard to grasp, but in prayer and union with God, the sense of our calling comes to us in the way God desires. For me, the more I drew closer to God, the more the signs were my desire to serve Him as a priest and spend my life leading others to Him – the only true source of all that is true, good and beautiful. Basically the more I knew God, the more I became conformed to His will, and the more I desired it.

Only in the peace that comes from a relationship with God can we have peace amidst all the doubts and worries about my unworthiness. This is a vocation no one is worthy of.

I recommend that you focus on drawing closer to God (especially in the Eucharist and with regular confession) and that you speak to a trusted priest about your discernment.

And as Pope John Paul II said, "Let yourself be summoned by the love of Christ, recognize his voice which rings in the temple of your heart. Have no fear of the fact that the response He requires is radical, because Jesus, who first loved you, is ready to give what he asks of you. If He asks much it is because He knows that you can give much."

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11/20/08  When discerning between priestly celibacy and marriage is it appropriate to consider the permanent deaconate? I feel a strong, healthy desire towards both the ministerial priesthood as well as marriage. I recognize that the deaconate would not be an option for me early in my marriage. I also know that the deaconate would be a discernment process for both my wife and my family. Do you have any suggestions?

When it comes to discernment it is usually best to discern one thing at a time. It can be tough to consider all vocations at once. Rather than consider all the possibilities at one time it may be best to consider first “Is God calling me to be a priest?” or “Is God calling me to married life?” Ultimately when discerning the question is not, “what do I want?” but rather, “what does God want?” Down the road, the discernment for the diaconate would include both spouses and the Church.

In general, when it comes to discernment, the following are the most helpful

 Some practical suggestions which will help a young man discern a call to priesthood are: 

1)      Daily Mass - one who is discerning a call to priesthood is encouraged to participate in the daily celebration of Mass so that he can grow in his relationship with the Lord.

2)      Sacrament of Penance – The celebration of the Sacrament of Penance is the way in which a man attempts to live a holy life - through the frequent confession of sins and by the grace of God.

3)      Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament – this is a powerful way to grow in love with the Eucharistic Lord and to grow in the spiritual life.

4)      Daily Prayer – this is time set aside for God alone, usually in a quite place at a specific time each day.  This prayer time might consist of talking to the Lord in one’s own words or praying the Sacred Scriptures, especially the Gospels.  Developing a daily habit and pattern of prayer will help the young man to hear more clearly the call of the Lord.

5)      Spiritual Direction – speaking with a priest or qualified individual trained in direction about one’s prayer life and seeking advice from this person on a regular basis is very helpful as one discerns a vocation to the priesthood. 

6)       Discernment Programs – attending a weekend retreat at a seminary, vocation evenings or joining a discussion group of other young men discerning a vocation are invaluable in helping one to come to greater clarity about God’s call to priesthood.

7)      Devotion to the Blessed Mother - praying the rosary daily and seeking the powerful intercession of the Blessed Mother is especially recommended in the discernment process.

8)      Get involved in some form of service with the Church.  For example, outreach to the poor, teaching religious education, lecturing at Mass, taking Holy Communion to the sick, working with the young of a parish, etc. are ways to give one a taste of “ministry” and may also increase one’s desire for ministry and service.

9)      Talk to a Vocation Director – in order to obtain further information about seminary and priestly life.  The vocation director may also help through regular meetings so as to help in discerning with the young man the authenticity of the call.

~ These steps were taken from the USCCB vocations website.

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9/28/08  God 's call me to enter into religious life, but I have big problem, I have a loan in the bank 3 years to pay, but God want me to enter  now, please help me how to resolve it. I can't sleep well for this. God bless

Thanks for the message. Yes, it is very common that one incurs much debt in the course of obtaining a good education. Given the nature of the simple life of religious orders, I can understand that they would be unable to accept you until the loan is paid off. Though the problem is not likely resolved easily, I would recommend that you continue the discernment process of prayer and consideration of which order God could be calling you to. If there is a particular community you feel God is calling you to, it would be wise to discuss the loan with them. It may well be that the loan would need to be worked on before entering. If this is the case, the Lord would allow this time to be a time of growth.

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9/28/08  I am only fifteen, a sophomore in high school, and I was wondering when would be the appropriate time to begin speaking with the Vocation Director(s)?

Thank you for the question. This time of high school can be very important time in your development spiritually. It can also be a time when God allows you to know His will. Keep going in your prayer and participation in the sacraments. The Lord guides us with the sacraments. As far as speaking to your vocation director, that is up to you. I would first mention it to your parish priest. There may also be diocesan days of discernment for high school students. Though the process would not begin for some time, it seems it would not hurt to let the vocation director know (perhaps by email) that you are discerning.

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Thank you for your questions. Discernment can at times be difficult and God’s will can seem unclear. The work of discovering His will is done first and foremost in prayer. Even then it can be hard. I recommend that you perhaps talk to your parish priest about the matter. Some dioceses have some age criteria when considering candidates. This is part of the diocese’s discernment. You may want to check that out as well. May God bless your continued growth in His love.

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9/28/08  Where can  I find out about all the possible Orders in New Zealand? There seems to be very little information on them via the internet, but then I may not be looking properly! (p.s. This is a fantastic site!!)  Peace and Blessings :-)

The following lists the dioceses: http://www.catholic.org.nz/bishops/bishops.php

This is a list of communities in the Auckland Diocese: http://www.aucklandcatholic.org.nz/Links/tabid/978/Default.aspx

God Bless and be assured of our prayers.

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9/28/08  Are the canonical impediments (specifically abortion) for reception into OCDS the same as those being called to the priesthood or diaconate?  Or is this kind of "orders" treated differently?

Although I am unfamiliar with the OCDS and cannot speak to that particular situation, I can say that the event of an abortion in one’s past is not an irreconcilable situation. Canon Law provides ways of reconciling (including the Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation) one with the Body of Christ. There have certainly been men in grave sin (namely Ss. Paul and Augustine) who have converted to Christ after lives of sin and have served as fine priests. The Church takes all this into consideration in the process of application. 

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9/26/08  What type of credits are do you need to have in order to be accepted to a college seminary? Does grades play a major factor or does following God's Will?

Good question. College seminary involves the study of a broad range of topics and areas. There are the general education classes of English, history and the sciences. The main focus of the studies tends to include the study of philosophy with some theology. Grades do play a role in acceptance into college seminary because of the academic rigor of the coursework. God’s will would certainly be factored into the equation, yet at the same time, one’s grades could show the young man’s desire to do the intellectual work of a well informed priest.

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9/26/08  Since I was very young I have wanted to become a priest, but I don' really know what to do or who to talk to?  Also is there financial aid? And Ii am illegally here in the us, would the be a problem?

Thank you for your questions and your consideration of God’s will. I would suggest that you first talk to your parish priest about your desire to become a priest. He should be able to give you some guidance. He may feel that it would be worth while to contact the diocesan vocations office for further discussion. The financial aid and immigration status would be items that each diocese would handle differently so you would want to discuss it with them. The primary concern is God’s will so stay close to the Lord in daily prayer, Mass and steady use of the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

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2/15/08  Hello, I'm attracted to a certain congregation and have been planning to make a visit. The problem is it's overseas and will take me years to visit them. I've thought instead of visiting other congregation here in our country. The problem again is that I will just be wasting my time and effort because I strongly felt that I should visit first above all else the first congregation in mind. There are so many congregations but I'm just not attracted to them. Besides that, even if I have the intense desire to join, I can't since there are things to clear up. I am somewhat in the process of waiting. Do you think that not visiting other congregations will be the best move? Any advice about this? God Bless! Thanks in advance...

Thank you for your excellent question.  You sort of answered the question yourself.  There ARE over 300 congregations throughout the world.  If you truly feel called to a particular religious order, you should first contact them by phone or email and express your interests.  The vocation director for that order should be able to offer some suggestions that might help you to clear some things up as you say.  Each congregation is a bit different in the way it deals with prospective candidates and so it would be worth your while to see if visiting the congregation you are interested in is even an option.

Concerning you desire to visit other congregations... that would not be a bad idea.  You may want to find a congregation a bit closer to home.  Do not wait years to follow the Lord's invitation to follow Him.

God does not call someone to a particular way of life and then prohibit them from entering in to it.  The question you will have to answer for yourself would certainly include looking at the reality of your particular situation.  Are your expectations realistic?  At the same time, as Mother Angelica once said, "How can you expect the miraculous unless you expect the ridiculous?"  If the Lord is calling you to a congregation in another country, He WILL provide the means by which to get there.   

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Of course, above all is finding God's will in my life and for the world. I just would like to know what to expect!

Seminary is "really, truly a place of deeper discernment" as you say.  If you were to enter for the Diocese of Phoenix, the application process would help you discern God will.  Some of the "obligations or responsibilities" would include:

    Relation to God. Does the candidate give evidence of an active and real prayer life? Does the candidate participate frequently in the celebration of Mass and the sacraments, especially the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation? Is there evidence of a devotional life?

    Ability to articulate faith. The candidate will need, in most cases, to preach/teach. Therefore, is the candidate able to express or articulate his/her faith so that it makes sense in private and in public? Does the candidate demonstrate an adequate knowledge and depth of understanding of the Catholic faith?

    Openness to lay apostolate. Is candidate able to share ministerial responsibility with laity? Is he/she able to collaborate authentically with all kinds of people as found in a typical parish, without dodging responsibility?

    Openness to others. Is there a healthy attitude and "ability to relate" with other men and women? Does the candidate have a sense of "appropriate boundaries"?

    Openness and concern for the poor. Does the candidate know something of the Scriptures and social teachings of the Church with regard to poor, the "poor in spirit," wherever they are found?

    Openness to ethnic diversity. Is the candidate open to learning Spanish, or does he/she know a second pastoral language? How does he/she relate to people of various cultural backgrounds?

    Commitment and adherence to the Church's message. Does the candidate have an adequate grasp and understanding of Catholic dogma and moral teachings so as to give solid witness of this to others?

    Respect for Church life. Is the candidate comfortable with legitimate and approved diversity of expression within the life of the Church? Is  he/she able to avoid polarization and labeling of others?

    Openness to the entire formation program of the seminary/novitiate. Does the candidate demonstrate an ability to meet challenges and adapt to changes, as well as an openness to spiritual growth and maturity during formation?

Lastly, you wonder about being frowned upon... As long as you are truly seeking to do God will with a sincere heart, you will not be frowned upon.

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After a young man is ordained for the Diocese of Phoenix, there is a possibility for them to do further studies in Rome.  This would need to be discussed with the Bishop.  Several factors would be considered in making such a decision which would certainly include the needs of the diocese.

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I was wondering if you could give any suggestions on relating to my sisters in Christ. I often feel attracted and would like to pursue a relationship but know that it is likely not my calling. Often even really good and holy friendships with some of my female friends don't quite feel right. I am just looking for appropriate boundaries for myself and for my sisters.

Another powerful statement from Pope Paul VI comes in paragraph 24.  He reminds us that "the response to the divine call is an answer of love to the love which Christ has shown us so sublimely. This response is included in the mystery of that special love for souls who have accepted His most urgent appeals. With a divine force, grace increases the longings of love. And love, when it is genuine, is all-embracing, stable and lasting, an irresistible spur to all forms of heroism. And so the free choice of sacred celibacy has always been considered by the Church "as a symbol of, and stimulus to, charity".  It signifies a love without reservations; it stimulates to a charity which is open to all. In a life so completely dedicated and motivated, who can see the sign of spiritual narrowness or self-seeking, and not see rather that celibacy is and ought to be a rare and very meaningful example of a life motivated by love, by which man expresses his own unique greatness? Who can doubt the moral and spiritual richness of such a life, consecrated not to any human ideal, no matter how noble, but to Christ and to His work to bring about a new form of humanity in all places and for all generations" (SC, 24)May your love be complete as you seek to do God's will.

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11/ 13/07  (St. Francis Xavier Cabrini) I am 37 years old and have never been married. I have always felt a tugging at my heart towards the priesthood, but I have always made excuses to ignore it. Work, girlfriend, school, etc. I feel now God wants me to answer. What should I do. Am I too old?

Thank you for your excellent question.  Yes, there are some dioceses and Religious Orders that do accept 'belated' vocations.  Typically the ages for entering an Order or a diocese are between 18 and 35.  Some of the Orders/dioceses that do accept belated vocations will have some sort of age limit above that (for ex: 55 years of age).  You can check out the specifics on the vocation search located on the Institute of Religious Life website: www.religiouslife.com  or call the Director of Vocations for your particular diocese to find out the age limits.  Remember that a deacon is also an ordained minister in the Church and their age restrictions are less stringent.

The Lord does indeed call when He will...and for some it is later in life.  However sometimes the call to holiness can be confused with the call to a religious vocation.  This is something that can be better assessed by those who know you, most particularly a spiritual director.

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10/ 09/07 (Sts. Denis and Companions/St. John Leonardi)  I feel that God is calling me to become a religious following the footstep of St. Francis in the life of simplicity since when I was a child until now. I see myself wearing the religious habit of St. Francis praying in front of the Blessed Sacrament alone.  I tried to join and experience other Franciscan community but it seems something God wants me to do. I feel he called me to become a hermit or something cloistered but sad to say that no Franciscan cloistered for men here in the Philippines except the Benedictine and other religious community for women like the Poor Clare nun and the Carmelite nun.  I feel that God is calling me to explore something deeper in a very unique way of life following the life of St. Francis of Assisi.  My general question is, is anyone permitted to wear the religious habit without living the community and explore living alone or in the parish exploring his vocation to religious life?  I hope and I pray that I could hear from your answer  soon.  Do pray for me as I for you and to the rest of the community and to all the young men and woman discerning their vocation to religious life. thank you

If God is calling you to follow in the footsteps of St. Francis by living a life of simplicity since you were a child, then follow in the footsteps of St. Francis by living a life of simplicity.  You will find yourself depending on God more and yourself less... not a bad way to live.  You do not need a religious habit to be live a simple life for the Lord.  There may be other cloistered orders outside of the Philippines that you may want to look into.  Concerning your second question... you can probably wear whatever you like IF you are living alone.  The purpose of the religious habit is to identify you with a particular community which would probably be the best place to obtain the religious habit.  With that in mind, I would suggest you not wear a habit except within a religious community.

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10/ 09/07 (Sts. Denis and Companions/St. John Leonardi)  I am thinking about entering the Benedictine order and have been separated from my wife for 3and a half years. We have a daughter but she lives with her mother in another country. Would there be a problem joining the community and what dispensation would be necessary?

Before applying to any religious community, you would need to be granted an annulment.  Each religious community is unique in their expectation for their candidates.  It would be helpful for you to find a community that you are interested in becoming a part of and inquire into their specific requirements.  The annulment would definitely have to be granted before you could begin any type of application process.

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10/ 09/07 (Sts. Denis and Companions/St. John Leonardi) Is it permitted for a person outside the convent or monastery to wear a religious habit as a sign of his vocation and devotion without joining a religious community but practicing the life of poverty, chastity obedience and also trying to live a semi-contemplative way of life or active-contemplative way of life?

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8/ 20/07 (St. Bernard)  Can someone have more than one vocation?

The Catechism defines a vocation as:  "The calling or destiny we have in this life and hereafter.  God has created the human person to love and serve Him; the fulfillment of this vocation is eternal happiness.  Christ calls the faithful to the perfection of holiness.  The vocation of the laity consists in seeking the Kingdom of God by engaging in temporal affairs and directing them according to God's Will.  Priestly and religious vocations are dedicated to the service of the Church as the universal sacrament of salvation."  You could certainly add the marriage as a vocation as well.

Venerable John Henry Newman addresses one's vocation this way:  "God has created me to do Him some definite service; He has committed some work to me which He has not committed to another. I have my mission... I have a part in a great work; I am a link in a chain, a bond of connection between persons. He has not created me for naught. I shall do good, I shall do His work; I shall be an angel of peace, a preacher of truth in my own place, while not intending it, if I do but keep His commandments and serve Him in my calling." 

To answer your question... there is really only one vocation and it includes dedicating your whole life to God. It is the call to be saints.  It is the call to be holy. It is the call to use your gifts in the service of God's people.

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8/18/07 (St. Jane Frances de Chantal)  Does prayer changes God's mind?

Thank you for your question.  St. Thomas Aquinas addresses this very question this way. "In order to throw light on this question we must consider that divine providence decrees not only what effects shall take place, but also from what causes and in what order these effects shall take place. Now among other causes human acts are the causes of certain effects. Wherefore it must be that men do certain actions, not that thereby they may change the divine decree, but that by those actions they may achieve certain effects according to the order of the divine decree: and the same is to be said of natural causes. And so it is with regard to prayer. For we pray, not that we may change the divine decree, but that we may impetrate (to request something in an earnest manner, especially in prayer) that which God has decreed to be fulfilled by our prayers, in other words "that by asking, men may deserve to receive what Almighty God from eternity has decreed to give" (Summa Theologica 2-2.83.2c).

8/ 17/07  Do you have to go to college before seminary?

You do not have to go to college before entering the seminary.  The Diocese of Phoenix currently sends college age students to college seminary where they will receive a college degree as well as all the necessary prerequisites to be begin the theology program.

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7/24/07 (St. Sharbel Makhlouf) Which Religious Orders consider older men for their communities? I heard a Priest on EWTN say that there communities for older vocations. Thank You!  

Thank you for your question.  There are Orders that accept 'belated' vocations.  Typically the ages for entering an Order are between 18 and 35.  Some of the Orders that do accept belated vocations will have some sort of age limit above that (for ex: 55 years of age).  There are too many religious orders to mention here but I would suggest that you contact the order you are interested in to see what they have concerning age requirements.You can check out the specifics on the vocation search located on the Institute of Religious Life website: www.religiouslife.com  The Lord does indeed call when He will...and for some it is later in life.  However sometimes the call to holiness can be confused with the call to a religious vocation.  This is something that can be better assessed by those who know you, most particularly a spiritual director. 

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7/24/07 (St. Sharbel Makhlouf) Is there such thing as a reluctant vocation that keeps returning to someone who tries to ignore it?

You are in good company.  There are actually many Saints who believed at one time or another that they could "ignore" God.  Fortunately, God, in His love for us, does not give up that easily.  You certainly have the freedom to "ignore" God's invitation.  God loves you and He will not force you to do anything.  The deeper question that you need to answer for yourself is this:  If God loves you, then would He ask you to do anything that might jeopardize that relationship?  Absolutely not!  Why would you even want to ignore Him?  Is your plan that excellent.  Remember, God has the perfect plan for you.  To ignore God's perfect plan for you is to settle for second best.  Most importantly, to ignore God is to ignore love.  That does not sound like a holy decision to me.

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7/24/07 (St. Sharbel Makhlouf)  How can I join the Diocese of Phoenix to study for priesthood being aware that am ex consolata seminarian and a Kenyan?

The "process" for becoming a seminarian vary from diocese to diocese.  You may want to enjoy being a Catholic for a few years before you begin to seriously discern the priesthood.  Some of the things you need to consider would include if you are interested in applying for the seminary would include:

• Must be a practicing Catholic who has a strong prayer life

• attends Mass regularly

• celebrates the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation regularly

• is committed to Catholic teaching and morals.

• Needs to have lived in the Diocese of Phoenix for at least two years, and is active in some sort of parish ministry i.e. lector, altar server, usher, youth/young adult ministry, R.E. education program volunteer etc.

• Must have demonstrated ability to live a celibate life for two years.

• Must be in good physical and mental health.

• Must have the academic ability to complete a regular college program and/or graduate studies in theology.

If the above items are a part of your life right now then you may want to contact the Vocation Director.  Here are some others things you may want to consider doing as you discern God will for your life.

1. Contact the Vocations Office; through referral from another priest, religious, or lay person; letter or phone call of inquiry; participation at Vocations Office events, etc.

2. Follow-up or initial interview with Vocation Director which would include focusing on your attraction to the priesthood and rationale for seeking admission to the program.

3. If the above interview goes well then the You is given an application for the diocese.

4. Upon favorable review of aforementioned materials, you is interviewed by diocesan screening/review board, who submit recommendations for inclusion in your dossier.

5. Complete file and vocation director's recommendation is submitted to the bishop who makes final determination and choice of seminary.

The vocation director of your local diocese will be able to direct you to the seminary options in your diocese.

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7/24/07 (St. Sharbel Makhlouf)   I feel a calling to the ordained ministry but how does one reconcile pass mistakes with this new reality. I don't feel worthy because of my pass mistakes or will ever be worthy.

Sadly, your question pops up all too often.  Many times, people are lied to by the enemy who wants young souls, especially potential priests, to believe that they are no good, that their past mistakes are the summation of who they are in God's eyes.  Don't worry.  You will never be worthy... on your own.  BUT JESUS CHRIST has made you worthy.  Does that meant that you will be a priest?  Not necessarily.  There are many factors to be considered to be sure.  Click here for details.  If you are called to the priesthood, then God will remove all the major obstacles.  That does not always mean clear sailing.  There will still be challenges i.e., overcoming your past mistakes with God's grace.  There will undoubtedly be questions and concerns that you will have to overcome during the course of your discernment.  Often times, especially when one is discerning a vocation to the priesthood and/or religious life, there can be discouraging thoughts that bombard one's mind.  Certainly there are thoughts of unworthiness, as you mentioned or fears of the unknown that often find their way into the discernment process.  Take heart, the words "Do not be afraid" echo throughout Sacred Scripture some 366 times!  God will lead you along the right path if you know how to listen and follow His Voice.  Some of the best discernment decisions are born out of frequent Mass attendance and regular Confession.  It would not hurt if you spoke to a spiritual director (a priest or religious) about your vocation.  Faithfulness to your prayers will go a long way in leading you to do the Lord's will.  You will find His will.  He is not a tricky God and He is not trying to hide His will from you.  God Loves YOU.

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7/24/07 (St. Sharbel Makhlouf) What are the opportunities available for Third Orders, or lay ministries, in the Diocese of Phoenix? There are a few listed on the site, but I do not think that list is comprehensive.

Thank you for your question. I am not quite sure what you mean by opportunities but if you are asking if there are Third Orders in the Diocese of Phoenix the answer is definitely affirmative.  Although some are more active than others, I am sure that if you ask around at your particular parish or contact a religious order of your choice you will find plenty of "opportunities" to join a Third Order.  Concerning lay ministry, again that question leaves you with more options that not.  You might want to ask your local parish priest or staff member at your parish to direct you to the needs of that community.  Again, you will find there are a variety of opportunities for you to offer your time and your talent.  You might want to begin by asking the Lord to shed some light on your own gifts that you bring to the table... ask the Lord to give you the courage to utilize those gifts for His glory.  There you will find the peace you are seeking.

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6/25/07  I'm not very smart. Is there an entrance exam prior to going entering the seminary?

Thank you for your question.  While there is no entrance exam per se... part of the application process  in the diocese includes your transcripts and your SAT and ACT scores.  There is also an intelligence test given by an psychologist to determine your intellectual capability.  There may seem to be an emphasis on grades and education but that is not the only factor the diocese considers when looking at a prospective seminarian.  You can read some of the previous answers when looking at criteria for acceptance into the seminarian program.  Something you may want to consider... are you able to do academic work?  The seminary is certainly not looking for the next St. Thomas Aquinas, but they do expect you to be able to complete the school work.  You can contact the Vocation Office if you would like to discuss the specific classes that you will be expected to take at the seminary.

6/25/07  I am an Anglican, but feel called to the Sacred Priesthood and called to become a Roman Catholic. Is it possible that God is calling me to do both?

Thank you for your interesting question.  The short answer from based on a response from Father William P. Saunders in addressing the issue of married Anglican clergy.  He concludes that an ordained Episcopalian minister would have to make a profession of Faith and be received into the Catholic Church, and thereupon receive the Sacrament of Confirmation. He would then take appropriate courses which would enable him to minister as a Catholic priest. 

Click here for more information on celibacy and priesthood.

Article on Anglican - Catholic Unity

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6/5/07 (St. Boniface)  I was wondering if if something like ADHD or slight OCD would hinder a young man from becoming a priest? If you aren't medicated and don't let it interfere with your life (pick an active order vs comtemplative) would it be a cause for concern? I can't imagine with these things being so common in degrees, that a lot of priests/brothers don't have some type of quirk that is just part of who they are. Thank you for any information.

Thank you for your interesting and provocative question.  A potential candidate's physical and mental health are certainly factors in determining their future as a seminarian and a potential priest.  Obviously, there are a variety of health issues that could prevent someone from entering the seminary.  The question you pose could be cause for concern.  As with every candidate, a medical, dental, and psychological report would need to be completed prior to acceptance.  Every person, as you mentioned, has some degree of limitation, whether it be physical, emotional, spiritual, psychological, (usually all of them).  However, the rigors of active ordained ministry can be quite taxing and therefore, good mental, physical, and spiritual health are very important..  No bishop in his right mind would want to place a potential priest in danger by subjecting him to situations that could trigger some sort of undue stress resulting in a mental breakdown or worse.  Bottom line, ADHD or slight OCD may not hinder a young man from becoming a priest but it would certainly be factored in for the final decision of acceptance by the bishop.

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5/15/07 What is the maximum age at which a priest can be ordained which one can be ordained a priest?  Is this a requirement that varies by arch/diocese?

Yes, there are some dioceses and Religious Orders that do accept 'belated' vocations.  Typically the ages for entering an Order or a diocese are between 18 and 35 but some dioceses and religious orders do make exceptions.  There are several factors that would influence their final decision to accept a 'belated' vocation.  These might include things such as: health, debt, involvement in the Church to name a few.  Some of the Orders/dioceses that do accept 'belated' vocations will have some sort of age limit above that (for ex: 55 years of age).  You can check out the specifics on the vocation search located on the Institute of Religious Life website: www.religiouslife.com  or call the Director of Vocations for your particular diocese to find out the age limits.  Remember that a deacon is also an ordained minister in the Church and their age restrictions are less stringent.

The Lord does indeed call when He will...and for some it is later in life.  However sometimes the call to holiness can be confused with the call to a religious vocation.  This is something that can be better assessed by those who know you, most particularly a spiritual director. 

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4/9/07  What role do doubts play in discernment? I know that they are normal & probably necessary when discerning any vocation. So how can I tell if these doubts (especially about a vocation to religious life) are from God to help lead me along the right path, or from the devil who doesn't want me to do God's will? Thanks & God bless you for this wonderful website.

Thank you for your excellent question.  There will undoubtedly be questions and concerns that you will have to overcome during the course of your discernment.  Often times, especially when one is discerning a vocation to the priesthood and/or religious life, there can be discouraging thoughts that bombard one's mind.  There are thoughts or unworthiness or fears of the unknown that often find their way into the discernment process.  Take heart, the words "Do not be afraid" echo throughout Sacred Scripture some 366 times!  God will lead you along the right path if you know how to listen and follow His Voice.  Some of the best discernment decisions are born out of frequent Mass attendance and regular Confession.  It would not hurt if you spoke to a spiritual director (a priest or religious) about your vocation.  Faithfulness to your prayers will go a long way in leading you to do the Lord's will.  You will find His will.  He is not a tricky God and He is not trying to hide His will from you.  Pray these words given to the world by our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI.  . 

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4/1/07 How does you get into one of the seminaries?

After one is officially accepted as a seminarian by a diocese, there are several factors involved in determining which seminary would be most appropriate for a particular candidate not the least of which is prior education.   The Diocese of Phoenix currently has three seminaries that we utilize for college and/or theology education.  If you are a college student you will be sent to the Pontifical College Josephinum since that is the only college seminary that we use right now.  There are three Theologates that we have to choose from and this is largely decided by all that is revealed in the application process.  Personality is certainly one of the factors but academics and faith background also play a large part in the selection. Ultimately, the bishop of the local diocese makes the final decision for you.

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3/27/07 I recently started reading the Bible because I had a near death experience... long story, but I always went to church, then I started falling back and boom, God made me realize it. It changed me A LOT.  The strange thing is, I have been having "unusual" things happening to me.  They don't frighten me because of my faith, but I think the Lord is calling me. My answer is "Yes".  What should I do? Thank you

God often uses difficult situations in our lives to help perfect us, especially if we embrace the difficulty.  When we trust God in these painful situation, we can often see that God is sanctifying us and strengthening us so that we can better serve Him.  Many people are often changed for the better through suffering.  A word of caution though, sometimes a person's response to a difficult situation is made in haste.  It is not a good idea to make dramatic, life-changing decisions when you are in the midst of "unusual" events.  It would be best for you to "test" the vocation with some solid prayer and discernment with a spiritual director.  If you are truly being called to the priesthood, the Lord will continue to reveal your vocation to you and possibly to those who know you well.  It might be wise for you to seek the advise from a few trusted individuals in your life who would be honest with you about your calling.

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3/26/07 If I understand correctly, one must be debt free prior to entering Religious Life. Is the same true for entering Priesthood? I have a large amount of student loan debt (in excess of $18k). Would this debt need to be paid off prior to entering a seminary if accepted into Priesthood?

Your question is a good one and seems to be happening more and more with the rising cost of education.  Fortunately, government student loans can be deferred as long as you are in school and registered as a full-time student. A diocese will typically send their seminarians directly to school whereas a religious order may or may not send you on to seminary or on to any formal education for that matter.  After a seminarian who is studying for a diocese has been ordained, he may be required to pay off his student loan at that time.

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3/22/07 How does one get into one of the seminaries?

Thank you for your question! You must first become a seminarian. Click here to find out how to become a seminarian. Once accepted as a seminarian, the bishop will decide which seminary will best suit your needs and the needs of the diocese.  Some diocese have their own seminary in which case, you would most likely attend your local seminary.  Some diocese rely on seminaries outside of their own diocese which is the case in the Diocese of Phoenix.

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3/4/07 What exactly is celibacy? How do you live it?

Thank you for your question! According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church #1579 "All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate 'for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.'[Mt 19:12] Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to 'the affairs of the Lord,'[1 Cor 7:32 .] they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church's minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God.[Cf. PO 16.]"

Here is a link that would be good for you to take a look at: http://www.vocations.com/celibacy.html 

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3/3/07 What is life like in the seminary?

Thank you for your excellent question!  Like most places we find ourselves, life is what you make it.  While there is a great deal of structure in the seminary, there is also room for you to stretch you independence.  A typical day might look like this: 

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2/19/07 Let me preface this question with the fact that I am not Catholic. I know I was Baptized when young but am not sure if I was with the Roman Catholic or Orthodox Church. With that said, I have found myself thinking several times over the past few years of becoming a priest. I have always led a good, clean life (with the exception of not attending any church) and am not sure what to do about the thoughts I have.  I have visited many websites and researched quite a bit. I noticed 18-35 is the "general" age range accepted for entering the priesthood. At 28, am I reaching a type of point of no return with officially joining a church and discussing discernment?

Thank you for your question! Bottom line:  You need to start going to Church EVERY week.  Most priests celebrate holy Mass everyday, sometimes even several times a day.  If you have any aversion to Mass, then you are most likely not called to the priesthood.  Here are some other questions you might want to consider answering before you make the next step.

    Relation to God. Do you  have an active and real prayer life? Do you participate frequently in the celebration of Mass and the sacraments, especially the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation? Is there evidence of a devotional life?

    Ability to articulate faith. You will need, in most cases, to preach/teach. Therefore, are you able to express or articulate the faith so that it makes sense in private and in public? Do you demonstrate an adequate knowledge and depth of understanding of the Catholic faith?

    Openness to lay apostolate. Are you able to share ministerial responsibility with laity? Are you able to collaborate authentically with all kinds of people as found in a typical parish, without dodging responsibility?

    Openness to others. Is there a healthy attitude and "ability to relate" with other men and women? Do you have a sense of appropriate boundaries?

    Openness and concern for the poor. Do you know something of the Scriptures and social teachings of the Church with regard to poor, the "poor in spirit," wherever they are found?

    Openness to ethnic diversity. Are you open to learning Spanish, or do you know a second pastoral language? How do you relate to people of various cultural backgrounds?

    Commitment and adherence to the Church's message. Do you have an adequate grasp and understanding of Catholic dogma and moral teachings so as to give solid witness of this to others?

    Respect for Church life. Are you comfortable with legitimate and approved diversity of expression within the life of the Church? Are able to avoid polarization and labeling of others?

    Openness to the entire formation program of the seminary. Do you demonstrate an ability to meet challenges and adapt to changes, as well as an openness to spiritual growth and maturity during formation?

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1/27/07 What is the difference between Orthodox priest and a Roman Catholic priest?

Thank you for your question!  The heart of the question is best understood in the context of the difference between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church.  That is another question though.  Suffice it to say... the Orthodox priest serves as a priest in the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic priest would serve in the Roman Catholic Church.

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1/16/07 (Bernard, priest, and companions, proto-martyrs I order)  I've been discerning a vocation to the priesthood for several years and have been a seminarian for a diocese in the Midwest. It has helped a great deal to realize that I might not be called at all. But the main thing that's been a road block is celibacy. I have recently began realize that this is a big sacrifice. I just don't know if I can live a celibate chaste life. I've been celibate for seven years but struggle a great deal with chastity. Where do I go from here?  Should I take some time off?  Ordination is just around the corner. 

Thank you for you excellent question!  Your fears concerning the celibate life are not insurmountable with prayer, dialogue with your Spiritual Director, and daily Mass IF you are called to live a celibate life.  Celibacy is a "big sacrifice" as you say.  Marriage is a "big sacrifice".  Growing in holiness involves "big sacrifices".  Life involves sacrifice.  Life is difficult.  If you are honestly trying to live as Christ calls you to live, sincerely desiring holiness, then your life will be filled with sacrifices.  Sacrifice is not all bad.  Actually, sacrificing for others in the name of the Lord is what we are called to do. The Catechism of the Catholic Church talks about it this way. "We 'present [our] bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God,' (Romans 12:1) within the Body of Christ that we form and in communion with the offering of his Eucharist... As does the whole of the Christian life, the moral life finds its source and summit in the Eucharistic sacrifice" (CCC, 2031).  Consider what Pope Paul VI in SACERDOTALIS CAELIBATUS, his encyclical on the celibacy of the priest. "Priestly celibacy has been guarded by the Church for centuries as a brilliant jewel, and retains its value undiminished even in our time when the outlook of men and the state of the world have undergone such profound changes. Amid the modern stirrings of opinion, a tendency has also been manifested, and even a desire expressed, to ask the Church to re-examine this characteristic institution. It is said that in the world of our time the observance of celibacy has come to be difficult or even impossible" (SC, 1).

Another powerful statement from Pope Paul VI comes in paragraph 24.  He reminds us that "the response to the divine call is an answer of love to the love which Christ has shown us so sublimely. This response is included in the mystery of that special love for souls who have accepted His most urgent appeals. With a divine force, grace increases the longings of love. And love, when it is genuine, is all-embracing, stable and lasting, an irresistible spur to all forms of heroism. And so the free choice of sacred celibacy has always been considered by the Church "as a symbol of, and stimulus to, charity".  It signifies a love without reservations; it stimulates to a charity which is open to all. In a life so completely dedicated and motivated, who can see the sign of spiritual narrowness or self-seeking, and not see rather that celibacy is and ought to be a rare and very meaningful example of a life motivated by love, by which man expresses his own unique greatness? Who can doubt the moral and spiritual richness of such a life, consecrated not to any human ideal, no matter how noble, but to Christ and to His work to bring about a new form of humanity in all places and for all generations" (SC, 24)? May your love be complete as you seek to do God's will.

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1/13/07  I really enjoyed the discernment day the Diocese just had in December. Please give my thanks to Fr. Jonathan and especially the seminarians. I found their testimonies the most helpful.  How do you determine which seminary a seminarian should go to?  From the seminarians I've met in the parish and from the day of discernment, there seems to be common personality with each seminary. Do you take into account the your personality?

I am glad that you enjoyed the discernment day.  Concerning the seminary selection process... there are several factors involved in determining which seminary would be most appropriate for a particular candidate not the least of which is prior education.   The Diocese of Phoenix currently has three seminaries that we utilize for college and/or theology education.  If you are a college student you will be sent to the Pontifical College Josephinum since that is the only college seminary that we use right now.  There are three Theologates that we have to choose from and this is largely decided by all that is revealed in the application process.  Personality is certainly one of the factors but academics and faith background also play a large part in the selection. 

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12/20/06 Greetings, I have recently asked God to show me where He needs me as well as effect the necessary changes in my life that will better serve Him. My priest suggested that I would first need to be willing to change and open to God's direction for vocation. So, what specifically could I do to enhance my willingness and increase my openness? Any specific prayers or service orientated ideas that have proved useful? Thanks in advance.

You have asked a great question!!!  Obviously  you are willing to change whatever needs changing since you have already asked God to  "effect the necessary changes" in your life to "better serve Him".  One of the most consistent things in our life is change.  The most consistent thing in our life is that GOD LOVES US!  What is really needed is our response to that love.  Pope Benedict XVI's encyclical Deus Caritas Est reminds us that "being Christian is not the result of an ethical choice or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives life a new horizon and a decisive direction."  Saint John's Gospel describes that event in these words: “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should ... have eternal life” (3:16).  As children of God we all share the same vocation which includes, by our Baptism, a desire for holiness... for God.  There are many prayers.  First, go to Mass!  There you will meet our Eucharistic Lord!!!  Receive Him in Holy Eucharist.  Secondly, make the Sacrament of Confession a part of your prayer life.  Thirdly, go to our Blessed Mother.  Pray the Rosary.  She will teach you all about her Son.  Lastly, look again at Pope Benedict's words that come in the conclusion of his encyclical Deus Caritas Est:  "Finally, let us consider the saints, who exercised charity in an exemplary way. Our thoughts turn especially to Martin of Tours († 397), the soldier who became a monk and a bishop: he is almost like an icon, illustrating the irreplaceable value of the individual testimony to charity. At the gates of Amiens, Martin gave half of his cloak to a poor man: Jesus himself, that night, appeared to him in a dream wearing that cloak, confirming the permanent validity of the Gospel saying: “I was naked and you clothed me ... as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me” (Mt 25:36, 40).  Yet in the history of the Church, how many other testimonies to charity could be quoted! In particular, the entire monastic movement, from its origins with Saint Anthony the Abbot († 356), expresses an immense service of charity towards neighbor. In his encounter “face to face” with the God who is Love, the monk senses the impelling need to transform his whole life into service of neighbor, in addition to service of God."

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12/11/06 (St. Damasus I) I feel called to the priesthood. My diocese has no shortage of priests or possible vocation prospects. Do other dioceses, particularly with shortages actively seek outside their diocese? If so could you suggest some (I'm thinking of large metropolitan dioceses or very small "mission" ones but know of none in particular. BTW I'm practicing, have college education, and unmarried/comfortable with celibacy.

Praised be Jesus, Mary, Joseph and all the Angels and Saints!!! What a tremendous blessing it must be for you and your diocese to not have to worry about the shortage of priests.  Sadly, there does remain a shortage of responders to our Lord's invitation in some parts the world.  That reality exists in many diocese throughout the United States.  Often times, various dioceses do in fact "actively seek outside their diocese" but the Diocese of Phoenix prefers that you reside in the diocese for a minimum of two years before seeking application. There are often many cultural as well as language issues that need to be overcome in order for one to minister most effectively as a priest .  While there are exceptions... they are rare.  Each diocese varies and so it would be good for you to contact them directly.  You may want to find out which diocese you believe that you are being called to serve by the Lord and then contact them for further information.

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12/7/07 Should someone that has a canonical impediment reserved to The Holy See even consider the possibility that he is being called to the priesthood? How often are such impediments lifted by The Holy See?

Thank you for your excellent question.  You will find a very similar question with the answer by clicking .

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11/28/06 (St. Catherine Laboure) I have been in a great relationship for four years, I recently left my job as a Paramedic to work full time in Youth Ministry, and I have felt an attraction to the Priesthood. I was in discernment when I was younger and chose not to enter into formation. I want to know what is the best way to separate my will from Gods. I want to know if I am just attracted to the idea of the Priesthood, or if the Lord is truly calling me. I speak to my girlfriend about it and she has been very depressed and sad, and I don't like to see her suffering. Please Help, Thanks and God Bless !

Thank you for your excellent questions and sharing your concerns.  You say you "felt an attraction to the Priesthood".  Can you be so sure that your "feelings" where merely feelings?  God is not a trickster who is trying to trip you up.  He is God and being God, He created you.  He loves you and desires you to be with Him FOREVER in Heaven.  His will for you is perfect and so an honorable and ordered desire for you to have, would be to align your will with God's perfect will for you.  That is the best response... not to separate your will from His.  Your "attraction" to priesthood could be merely a fascination or it could really be God calling you to look more closely at this particular vocation. Are you really giving God an honest chance?

Concerning your girlfriend... there are not enough good men who are sincerely seeking holiness and are serious about doing the Lord's will.  I am sure that your girlfriend, as would most honest women, is looking for the descent qualities found in a man of God.  But if she really cares for you then she would truly desire you to do God's will... whatever that is.  Your dating her and discerning the priesthood is not helpful to anyone.  Your choosing to have one foot in "both worlds", that of an exclusive, dating relationship with a woman, and the world of discerning the priesthood will only continue to frustrate all involved.  The good news is that God loves you and He does have a perfect plan for you.  PRAY to do His will.  Listen for His voice.  God is not trying to fool you.  He is not calling you to lead a miserable life.  Do His will and all will be blessed by your decision.  So make one!

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11/26/06 (Christ the King) - I’ve been thinking about the priesthood since I was confirmed in high school. I’m interested to know the day to day life of a seminarian. I'm currently attending ASU. Is there anyway I can talk to one of the seminarians in person? I’ve always been shy in approaching them when I see them in my home parish. They always seem joyful and fun but they’re always talking to people. By the time they're done talking to people, it's time for them go serve the next mass.

I also use to see a lot of seminarians just hanging out at my home parish. I know some of them are from my parish. But I haven't seen them around in a while even during the summer.

Should I tell my priest that I'm thinking about the priesthood? I don't know him very well so I'm not very comfortable talking to him. Am I allowed to talk to other priests about this? If so, do you have any suggestions?

Thank you for your excellent questions and observations.  The seminarians are certainly available to speak with you.  You can contact them at the seminary during the school year to speak with them directly or you can wait until they come home for holidays.  In the summer months, the seminarians are usually assigned to a different parish in order to get a broader experience of the diocese.  You can always contact the Director of Vocation  at frkline@diocesephoenix.org and he should be able to put in contact with one of the seminarians.

It can be very helpful to speak to a priest that you feel comfortable speaking with about your vocation.  A good priest should not pressure you to become a priest or anything else for that matter.  You would do well to speak to a priest that challenges and motivates you to grow in holiness.  There are many priests that I would recommend you speak with in your area.  Feel free to contact me at frkline@diocesephoenix.org for more specific information.

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11/26/06 (Christ the King) - I am a new Catholic and have develop a serious affection for my faith. I also enjoy serving my fellow man. As a married person, I am obviously ineligible for Priesthood, but would seriously consider being a deacon. What things should I think about and where should I go for more information?

Thank you for your question.  Here are some insights gleaned from the diaconate office of the Diocese of Phoenix. 

First, speak with your family, friends and pastor about your sense of call. Next, you should call, write, or otherwise contact the Office of the Diaconate. This signals your interest in discerning a vocation to the diaconate, establishes you as an inquirer, and places you on the inquirer’s mailing list.

Someone representing the Office of the Diaconate will help you explore your sense of call. If you maintain your interest and feeling of a call, and if you meet the general criteria for deacon applicants, you will be given an application packet.

Applications are ordinarily processed only between July 1st and September 15 of each odd year. If you submit an application before or after these dates, it is likely that your application will be held for the next cycle. The pool of applicants are screened by an admission’s board during the fall of each year and those who are to be invited forward as an aspirant are notified by the Ordinary of their selection.

Applicants who are enrolled in the School of Ministry at Kino Institute prior to the review and selection process are not guaranteed selection. Recommendations are forwarded to the Bishop for his review after the admissions processes are completed.

If you would like to contact the Diaconate Office of the Diocese of Phoenix click on the following link:  http://www.diocesephoenix.org/diaconate/

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11/22/06 (St. Cecilia) - If someone feels called to the religious life, but his parish is pressuring him to join the diocesan priesthood, how should one deal with this?

Thank you for your excellent question.  You should not feel pressured into any way of life... particularly the priesthood or religious life.  This is your life we are talking about.  If God is calling you to a particular way of life then you have a responsibility to respond to God by living your life as He calls you to live it.  No one should pressure you to do something contrary to what God is calling you. 

It may be possible that the person pressuring you is unaware that you are considering the religious life and you would do well to let them know that you believe God is calling you to this particular way of life.  There is an adage that says: "As the water rises...all the boats rise together."  You are only obligated to do God's will and in doing His will, all are served.

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11/22/06 (St. Cecilia) - Are there vocations for a retired man?

Thank you for your excellent question.  Assuming that you are inquiring about vocations to ordained ministry, the answer would be absolutely.  Yes, there are some dioceses and Religious Orders that do accept 'belated' vocations.  Typically the ages for entering an Order or a diocese are between 18 and 35.  Some of the Orders/dioceses that do accept belated vocations will have some sort of age limit above that (for ex: 55 years of age).  You can check out the specifics on the vocation search located on the Institute of Religious Life website: www.religiouslife.com  or call the Director of Vocations for your particular diocese to find out the age limits.  Remember that a deacon is also an ordained minister in the Church and their age restrictions are less stringent.

The Lord does indeed call when He will...and for some it is later in life.  However sometimes the call to holiness can be confused with the call to a religious vocation.  This is something that can be better assessed by those who know you, most particularly a spiritual director. 

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - I am currently in R.C.I.A. and won't be "officially" Catholic until the Easter Vigil next year. I am not in college but I do have a high school diploma. I am interested in becoming a priest but I am not sure what to do about it right now because I am only a You for the next few months and also, I don't know what the educational requirements are to enter a seminary, or which seminary - as I live in Utah, I would go to. Can you please give me some guidance and information?

Thank you for your excellent question.  The "process" for becoming a seminarian vary from diocese to diocese.  You may want to enjoy being a Catholic for a few years before you begin to seriously discern the priesthood.  Some of the things you need to consider would include if you are interested in applying for the seminary would include:

• Must be a practicing Catholic who has a strong prayer life

• attends Mass regularly

• celebrates the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation regularly

• is committed to Catholic teaching and morals.

• Needs to have lived in the Diocese of Phoenix for at least two years, and is active in some sort of parish ministry i.e. lector, altar server, usher, youth/young adult ministry, R.E. education program volunteer etc.

• Must have demonstrated ability to live a celibate life for two years.

• Must be in good physical and mental health.

• Must have the academic ability to complete a regular college program and/or graduate studies in theology.

If the above items are a part of your life right now then you may want to contact the Vocation Director.  Here are some others things you may want to consider doing as you discern God will for your life.

1. Contact the Vocations Office; through referral from another priest, religious, or lay person; letter or phone call of inquiry; participation at Vocations Office events, etc.

2. Follow-up or initial interview with Vocation Director which would include focusing on your attraction to the priesthood and rationale for seeking admission to the program.

3. If the above interview goes well then the You is given an application for the diocese.

4. Upon favorable review of aforementioned materials, you is interviewed by diocesan screening/review board, who submit recommendations for inclusion in your dossier.

5. Complete file and vocation director's recommendation is submitted to the bishop who makes final determination and choice of seminary.

The vocation director of your local diocese will be able to direct you to the seminary options in your diocese.

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Would it ever be possible for someone once married in the church and divorced to gain a religious vocation? Also, are the rules to become a brother the same as a priest regarding this?

Thank you for your excellent questions.  The first question concerning marriage/divorce requires a bit more information from you but at first glance, the answer would be yes, it is possible to pursue a religious vocation. Again, depending on the individual situation, persons who have received a church annulment are potential candidates for a religious vocation. 

Concerning your second question... there are different "rules" or guidelines concerning entrance into a religious community and the priesthood.  You may want to inquire into a specific order or diocese to find out they particular requirements.  All would require, at the very least, an annulment for those previously married.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - How long does it take to get through Seminary?

Thank you for your excellent question.  Seminary formation varies from diocese to diocese and seminary to seminary.  If you have a high school degree but no college then you could enter a college seminary and be ordained in eight years.  If you have a college degree before entering the seminary, you may have six or seven years of seminary depending on which seminary you attend.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - Would it be inappropriate for a man to even consider beginning the discernment process if there exists in his background a canonical impediment that would, unless lifted, prevent his ordination to the priesthood? (e.g., participation in an abortion 20 years ago) How often, if ever, are canonical impediments, particularly those reserved to The Holy See, lifted? If paying for an abortion is the cause for the impediment, would it be foolish to even consider the possibility that one might be being called to the priesthood?

Thank you for your excellent question concerning canonical impediments.  You are correct in stating that there are impediments to ordination that do require a dispensation before pursuing ordination.  These would include: insanity, apostasy, heresy, schism, marriage, private or public vows, voluntary homicide or abortion, attempted suicide, self-mutilation or mutilation of others, impersonating a deacon, priest, or bishop, or excommunication to name a few. 

There is no way for one to know exactly how often the Holy See lifts such impediments though many are left to the local bishop to decide.  Though paying for an abortion would be considered an impediment, it would not be considered foolish for someone to look into the possibility of being called to the priesthood  after the impediment was removed.  There are many factors involved in this particular situation that cannot be answered without further discussion.  You would do well to contact your diocesan canonist or local priest for further insights.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - I have had a meeting with a vocational director and he is interested in me becoming a priest. He communicated that I should find a Spiritual Director.  My question is who should I look to for a Spiritual Director. If space and time permits please explain in detail what this S.D. will do for me. What ever information you are able to provide will be most appreciated.

Your question is certainly a good one.  If you are wanting to discern God's will for you, then it good to have some input from someone who can help you along the way.  A good spiritual director will be able to assist you by asking pertinent questions as well as offering helpful advise. Your spiritual director will be able to give you necessary information, which may include a Church teaching or the life of a Saint who could assist you along the way to God.   He/She should be a good listener.  If you choose a priest... you may want to celebrate the Sacrament of Confession during direction.  Most importantly, as good spiritual director should lead you to grow in holiness and in turn, deepen your awareness of God's presence in your life.  When choosing your spiritual director, it may be good to "interview" a couple of different vowed religious, priests, or deacons before making your final decision.  It is always a good idea to pray, asking God to help you to choose a good spiritual director.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - Your site is well done and attractive. However, I am disappointed that Brothers are not mentioned as part of the Religious Consecrated life.

Thank you for your kind words.  We are currently working on including a section on Brothers as part of the Religious Consecrated life.  Please feel free to forward any information that you would like to see included on the site and we will do our best to get the information out.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - I have had repeated impulses and a sort of perpetual calling to become a priest. Its strange though, sometimes its stronger than other times, its almost as if it comes in cycles. Sometimes I find myself trying to put it out of my mind, I couldn't imagine the Lord calling me, I am most definitely not worthy, its not that I am a grave sinner, it's just that I have felt also a vocation to the married life. I have dated on and off in high school, and I am currently dating a girl who attends my college. We share similar values, and I have discussed my calling with her, she supports what ever decision I make, I just feel worried, because I feel that I want to know for sure that its what God wants. I find my thoughts dominated by the Lord, images of him continuously pop into my head. I feel as though I'm being pursued by Gods spirit, and what a blessing it is, I just could use some guidance on how best to interpret my vocation, and if I am truly being called, because if I am, I will meet with my vocations director tomorrow, I just want to know for sure.

Thank you for your excellent concerns.  There is no specific formula for becoming an authentic disciple of Jesus, for becoming truly holy. But the Word of God does give some insight into your desire for specific answers. The surety you seek is found in Samuel’s response to the Lord: "Speak, for your servant is listening." In Samuel's simple response to God's call, you can see there is a sensitivity and a willingness to receive what God wishes to tell Samuel and us!  Samuel's response needs to be our response to the Lord... without any strings attached or any conditions or restrictions on how the Lord can work in our lives.  Take your concerns to the Lord in prayer... specifically daily Mass, adoration and frequent reception of the sacrament of confession.

We can know very few things with 100% surety.  But for us who do desire to be authentic disciples of Jesus, followers of Christ, who do desire to let the Lord work in us and through us, there is one simple response: "Speak, for your servant is listening!" If we mean those words, we can also pray: "Here am I, Lord; I come to do your will," for these words also reflect a heart that is sensitive, open and willing. In your response to God's call, you will find your peace and you will find the Lord's perfect will for you.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary)  - My parents have a hard time excepting my desire to be a priest. I seem to be getting the opposite of support from my home, almost as if they want to "keep me down." Although they may see it as pipe dream from a naïve and stupid teenager, I know for a fact I want to pursue a whole new identity... and no longer make God simply part of my life, BUT my life. After all of that, they still are denying and/or overlooking my desire to be a priest, so have any advice?

In the Old Testament, Samuel and others were dedicated to God at an early age by their parents. They were presented at the temple to live there with the priests and be educated and brought up consecrating their lives to God.  Times have changed.  Many parents are actually discouraging their children from God and His Perfect Will for His children.

On this feast of the Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, it is important that you look to our Lady herself, who in her first moment of reason, was being consecrated to God, as all Christians are called to be. As a baptized Christian, you are called from the moment of reason to dedicate your life to God.  This can be particularly difficult when parents become an obstacle rather than a bridge to our Lord. Sadly, we live in an age of self-love instead of love of God and willingness to live for Him. We owe Him everything, yet many never think of Him, much less thank Him or give Him credit or glory for our works. However, of ourselves, we can do nothing and the good works that we do are His and not our own.

Our consecration of ourselves to God should be done under our Blessed Mother’s patronage, as she set the perfect example of piety and holiness. Let us turn to her for assistance, asking her intercession that we might be pleasing to God in our efforts to live for Him.  In and through our Blessed Mother you will find the courage and strength to continue to give your life to God despite the obstacles.

Prayer

Mother Mary, pray for us that we may overcome all the distractions and lures of the world that would turn us away from holiness. Keep us close to your Immaculate Heart, dear Mother, and protect us from the snares of the evil one who is ever trying to entrap our souls. We ask this in the name of your Holy Son, Jesus. Amen.

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11/21/06 (The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) - How does a priest become a bishop?

Thank you for your question.  The short answer is that a bishop is appointed by the Holy Father.  The process is long and sometimes complicated but is necessary in order to find the best bishop for a particular diocese.  As part of the process of selecting a bishop, the Holy Father may look at inspirations given to him in prayer as well as consulting with a variety of sources to help him make a wise and holy choice.

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11/11/06 - Can you be a catholic priest and offer the Latin Mass?  Does our bishop offer the Latin Mass?

Thank you for the excellent questions.  In 1980, in a letter to the Bishops on the Holy Eucharist, Pope John Paul II said: "There are also those people who, having been educated on the basis of the old liturgy in Latin, experience the lack of this 'one language', which in all the world was an expression of the unity of the Church and which, through its dignified character, elicited a profound sense of the Eucharistic mystery. It is therefore necessary to show, not only understanding, but also full respect towards these sentiments and desires. As far as possible, these sentiments and desires are to be accommodated."  In 1988, Pope John Paul II issued his binding instruction Ecclesia Dei Adflicta. The Pope ordered: "Respect must everywhere be shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition by a wide and generous application of the directives already issued by the Apostolic See, for the use of the Roman Missal according to the typical edition of 1962."

Cardinal Mayer, the former head of the Vatican Commission Ecclesia Dei, said John Paul II  had spoken of the "lawfulness" of the Tridentine Mass and of the "legitimate aspiration" of Catholics to celebrate or attend that Mass. "Hence a privilege in the canonical sense of the term was granted to the faithful by the supreme legislator of the Church," said Cardinal Mayer. "Once a privilege is duly granted, the subject indeed has the right to benefit from it."

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11/11/06 - When should a junior in high school, who feels very strongly that he is being called to the priesthood, begin the "process" to become a seminarian? My friends are all beginning to apply to college and I was wondering when and what I need to do?

Thank you for your excellent question.  The "process" for becoming a seminarian vary from diocese to diocese.  Some of the things you need to consider would include if you are interested in applying for the seminary in the Diocese of Phoenix would include:

• Must be a practicing Catholic who has a strong prayer life

• attends Mass regularly

• celebrates the sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation regularly

• committed to Catholic teaching and morals.

• Needs to have lived in the Diocese of Phoenix for at least two years

• is active in some sort of parish ministry i.e. lector, altar server, usher, youth/young adult ministry, R.E. program volunteer etc.

• Must have demonstrated ability to live a celibate life for two years.

• Must be in good physical and mental health.

• Must have the academic ability to complete a regular college program and/or graduate studies in theology.

If the above items are a part of your life right now then you may want to contact the Vocation Director.  Here are some others things you may want to consider doing as you discern God will for your life.

1. Contact the Vocations Office; through referral from another priest, religious, or lay person; letter or phone call of inquiry; participation at Vocations Office events, etc.

2. Follow-up or initial interview with Vocation Director which would include focusing on your attraction to the priesthood and rationale for seeking admission to the program.

3. If the above interview goes well then the You is given an application for the diocese.

4. Upon favorable review of aforementioned materials, you is interviewed by diocesan screening/review board, who submit recommendations for inclusion in your dossier.

5. Complete file and vocation director's recommendation is submitted to the bishop who makes final determination and choice of seminary.

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11/1/06 - Feast of All Saints  I read the document that came form the Vatican regarding homosexuals and seminaries. The phrase "deep rooted tendency" puzzles me. What if a man who has same sex attraction but never gave into his temptations and has been living a chaste life, more so than anyone I know may I add, and is well integrated, who strongly feels called to serve as a priest, would there be a chance he'd be considered admission?

Thank you for your excellent question.  The answer of course needs a little background.  First of all, the Instruction does not offer a new discipline for the Church, rather it clarifies an already existing discipline that the Church cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies (as you note) or who support the so-called ‘gay culture’. 

The Church has been very clear about the criteria for preparing men for the priesthood.  There is a wealth of Church teaching on the formation of men for the priesthood which would include the decree Optatam totius on priestly formation as well as Pope John Paul II’s post-synodal apostolic exhortation Pastores dabo vobis: On the Formation of Priests in the Circumstances of the Present Day. 

Some people wonder about the emotionally healthy and stable gay man who has a sincere calling to the priesthood.  As presented in the instruction:  “ the Church…, cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or who support the so-called ‘gay culture’.”  A man striving for holiness and who is emotionally healthy and stable, would not practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or who support the so-called ‘gay culture’.

The instruction is not “homophobic” as some believe.  The instruction is actually quite the opposite in its approach.  The Church has been very consistent on her teaching concerning homosexual acts.  Homosexual acts, like all sexual acts outside of marriage, are gravely sinful. Unfortunately this very teaching, given to us in Sacred Scripture, is not acceptable by some and wrongly perceived as “anti-gay”.  The Church is very careful about the language it uses to address issues such as this.  To merely call the Church “anti-gay” is simplistic and disingenuous at best.  The truth is that no one has the right to be a priest and it is the Church who must decide who is fit to enter formation to become one.  It is the local Bishop of a diocese, in fact, who must decide whom to call to the priesthood and whom not to. 

Let us be perfectly frank, “Is every man qualified to be a priest”?  Certainly not.  “Is it not possible that one of the things that disqualifies him is his particular human weaknesses”?  Absolutely.  What the Church is saying is that men who have a "deep-seated homosexual tendencies" or who support the “gay culture” have just such a weakness and are unfit to enter into priestly formation.  There are, in fact, many personal weaknesses that would prohibit a man from becoming a priest.  This document only addresses those of a homosexual nature.   

It should be noted as a matter of clarification that there are homosexual tendencies that are not at all sinful, whether they are deeply rooted or transitory. Therefore, the instruction correctly states: “such persons must be accepted with respect and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. They are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter.

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10/24/06 (St. Anthony Mary Claret):  Does The diocese offer a class are discernment for young teens who are interested in the priesthood?

Thanks for your question.  Each diocese and religious order does offer some kind of discernment retreat or day of discernment for those interested in learning more about the priesthood or religious life.  There are also some parishes within the diocese that offer "Vocation Retreats" for their teens. The Diocese of Phoenix Vocation Office is offering a retreat for high school and college age students. This discernment day called "Thinking of Priesthood".  Click on this link "Thinking of Priesthood" to find out more information about the day.

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10/20/06 (St. Paul of the Cross):  Does the diocese plan any events for young men looking into the priesthood to visit the seminaries that our diocese sends to?

The short answer to your question is: "No, the Diocese does not plan any official event to visit the seminaries."  However, young men such as yourself, have visited some of the seminaries for a "Come and See" weekend that is offered by the seminary.  The Vocation Director should be able to provide specific information about these dates.  Most seminaries welcome the opportunity to show prospective seminarians the campus throughout the year but you definitely should let them know you are planning to visit them

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10/12/06:  I was told that priests act in the person of Christ?  What does this mean?  Is the person of Christ a divine person or is he a divine/human person?  If I became a priest, would I become a divine person, because I don't think I could handle becoming a divine person.

Your question is one that requires a bit of background in theology in order to understand the answer it more fully.  The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly reminds us that only Christ is the true Priest, the others being only His ministers.  When a young man is ordained, the bishop imposes his hands on his head and invokes upon him the Holy Spirit.  At that moment, there is the handing on the power of the Lord Who makes the bishops, as successors of the Apostles, partakers in a special way of His threefold priestly, prophetic and royal mission. 

Of course all those who are baptized have the same dignity before God.  But Christ has deliberately structured a hierarchy within the Church which means there are specific apostolic powers received from the Sacrament of Holy Orders. One clear example of those powers which Christ entrusted exclusively to the Apostles and their successors is the power of confecting the Eucharist.

Through the Sacrament of Orders, Christ so configures the priest to Himself that, when the priest pronounces the words of Consecration, he does not act on a mandate from the community but "'in persona Christi' which means more than just 'in the name of Christ' or 'in the place of Christ' since the celebrant, by reason of this special sacrament, identifies himself with the Eternal High Priest, Who is both Author and principal agent of His own Sacrifice in which truly no one can take His place.

As  #1548 of the Catholic Catechism states:  “In the ecclesial service of the ordained minister, it is Christ Himself Who is present to His Church as Head of his Body, Shepherd of His flock, High Priest of the Redemptive Sacrifice, Teacher of Truth.  This is what the Church means by saying that the priest, by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders, acts in persona Christi Capitis:  It is the same Priest, Christ Jesus, Whose sacred person His minister truly represents. Now the minister, by reason of the sacerdotal consecration which he has received, is truly made like to the high priest and possesses the authority to act in the power and place of the person of Christ himself (virtute ac persona ipsius Christi).”

Christ is the source of all priesthood: the priest of the old law was a figure of Christ, and the priest of the new law acts in the person of Christ.  If you would like to read more on this you can take a look at John Paul II's letter Dominicae Cenae

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10/3/2006: If separated but married in the past with one child, is there any Orders to consider....I hear about some priests who were married in the past?

Thanks for the excellent question.  Without knowing more of the details, my initial answer would be no.  Before considering the Religious Life, an annulment is necessary.  If that is obtained, there is still the question of your responsibilities as a parent. 

There is always the option of joining a Third Order, which allows you to participate in the spiritual benefits of a given Order and profess promises  according to your state in life.  In will not interfere with your responsibilities as a parent which is your primary vocation at this time in your life.